Comments on: Make Geodana’s and Club US Permanently Off-Limits.

By: DEZZNutz

DEZZNutz — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:54:04 +0000

the drinking curfew is bullshit… but since there is one we have to follow it… we are all adults and it shouldn’t be up to the bars to not serve the sailor it should be up to the sailor the follows the rules. my outlook for when the GW gets here the base will be locked down all the ships will be underway way and the GW sailors will fuck it up.

By: ET1 (SS)

ET1 (SS) — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:38:10 +0000

First off Jim, most of your posts are dead-on. You barely skimmed the surface with your “7 things I hate about Yokosuka” (no pun intended), but come on now. If you took a walk down the honch, you’d realize that they have to find a bar that caters to each person’s type. I personally prefer hip hop music, but I hate the trash they play in both US and Geo’s. I sure as hell would never go into George’s, that place simply isn’t for me. The point i’m trying to make, is that this place is more or less a melting pot. Anywhere in the Navy, you’ll have different people from different places who have different tastes. And as sailors, we ALL need an outlet to vent some steam. And I know that I’d rather go somewhere that they play some semblance of the music I like. I can’t speak for the youngins that go in there and cause trouble. Like I said before, different people from different places. Don’t blame the music, blame the environment. We can’t all choose where we grew up. And yes, shore patrol is a hassle, and eventually, if not already, people are gonna start fuckin shit up in Tokyo, also. So then it becomes, do we need shore patrol in Shibuya, Roppongi and Yokohama too? Or will they realize that they’ve gone overboard and tone down shore patrol in Yokosuka, which is highly unlikely. Sailors will be Sailors, whether they love the Navy or not. And I fully intend on NOT being in the honch when the G.W. get here.

By: DING

DING — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:29:47 +0000

After spending six years in Japan I’ve experienced a lot of things that can be changed about the honch. Banning clubs is not one of them like others say they will find another place to go. At least in the honch you have a leash on the ones who get out of hand. Having them spread out into places like Yokohama and Shibuya is not only making it worst but then you have all sorts of problems to fix once conflicts errupt. Those club owners have a business to run banning their clubs hurts them and the patrons who attend those clubs go elsewhere. To places that dont have shore patrol standing outside waiting to get the rule breakers off the street!!!

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:08:07 +0000

Oh yeah, GW is going to…yeah…from the base where you can get robbed waiting to get on base in the morning, or get robbed at the Food Lion that’s near the base or the BK near the base…when the best idea is to drive as fast as you can down Hampton Blvd with your doors locked and windows up until you hit Ghent…yeah. And that’s not forgetting that you car is likely get broken into at the carrier lot over there by the carrier piers onbase. Glad I had a POS as a daily driver when I was stationed there…

By: Tony

Tony — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 01:04:48 +0000

Oh by the way, for anyone out there who may be bringing Japanese friends/sig others on base, in order to be able to use the Japanese driver’s license as a form of ID, the person’s address needs to be in English (its the second space from the top on the license I guess) or they will not accept as a valid photo ID. Otherwise you have to use a Japanese passport…which, uh, is mostly in Japanese except for the passport holder’s name. Yeah. I sorta flipped out about that since the security guy said (and this was the first time I heard about it…I don’t live on base so I don’t watch channel 12, I don’t listen to Eagle 810 and I don’t read the Sea”Weed” either other than to see how many photos of CAPT Weed had put in the paper) he wouldn’t help me at all about this. Yeah. So either your Japanese friends have to carry thier passport or pay more money to get thier license changed. FYI.

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:24:36 +0000

As of today, 06 JUNE 08, Geodana’s has been removed from the off-limits list. This was due to Geodana’s hiring security guards to prevent over intoxication, and agreeing to follow the alcohol restrictions. Let’s see how long this lasts.

By: i~heart~Hawaii

i~heart~Hawaii — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 10:00:19 +0000

SOFA by GlobalSecurity.org

I guess the correct term would have to be Command sponsored. But then we would be considered SOFA status personnel.
PSD Yokosuka Command Sponsorship

If you aren’t command sponsored then you would be considered a tourist here and you can’t stay in the country longer than 90 days even if you arrive in the country with your spouse that’s here on official orders.

By: Lynn

Lynn — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:33:34 +0000

Considering a few of the stories I have been hearing about how some of the GW people are acting in San Diego, I have to agree things probably will get a lot worse for you Yokosuka people. As I said before, I understand why restrictions are more important in Japan, but when I said the sailors should be given the benefit of the doubt, I forget who the hell I was talking about. Scratch that bit about sailors being capable of responsible behavior at home because I totally forgot about how many times my husband has had to accompany people to court or bail them out of jail. One kid still owes us $100 from when my husband bailed him out for a DUI shortly before the GW left Norfolk. Forgive my momentary idealistic views. Such a shame when the few ruin it for the masses.

By the way, what is SOFA sponsorship?

By: IT1(SW/AW)

IT1(SW/AW) — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 09:03:31 +0000

Both those places are shitholes anyways. I’ve had to deal with instructing young sailors to take out their earrings and “grills”. On a couple of occasions, on the shipmate watch and after displaying my ID card, I was told to “fuck off cracker” and also had to restrain a sailor after he placed his hands on me. Why these kids think they can act like this a 1/4 mile from the main gate is beyond me. I agree with D-San that the GW is going to do a number on Yoko when it gets there. As much training and briefs that have been done with that crew already, it is just inevitable. Hopefully, the sailors that crossdeck onto GW really give some warning and training to their new shipmates. Stand by for heavy rolls.

By: Spendthrift

Spendthrift — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:33:20 +0000

Okay.
If there’s truly dangerous criminal activity being condoned or actively promoted in a club, then I think it should be off-limits, though that goes against my civil libertarian principles. I do agree that there are places in which contact between some real bad actors (non-Navy) and navy people will most likely result in tragedy of some kind or another. And quite frankly people seeking out that kind of place to have fun shouldn’t be in the Navy.
But when you couch it in terms of ‘over-serving’…it really does imply a shift of blame from the person doing the drinking to the person selling the booze. If we went around placing every bar in which somebody got shit-faced & then belligerent off limits, it’d be a longer list. And I don’t think that the clubs are the primary guilty party.
I understand the rationale behind putting a club off-limits when there’ve been fights. But it totally pisses me off that it should be necessary. And the idea that we have to put a club off-limits to prevent sailors from getting in trouble there directly contradicts the argument that if we treat sailors like adults they’ll behave professionally and won’t get in trouble. Any of these restrictions…they’re points on the same continuum. That’s where I think you contradict yourself, Jim - though I don’t think you’re a hypocrite. Try to pin down exactly where the ‘good’ restrictions end and the ‘bad’ restrictions start, and you’ll find yourself lost in the gray areas, which unfortunately is where a lot of people are wandering around as we speak.

Oh, and in the opening paragraph - when I talk about ‘criminal’ I am kind of fencing off my definition to suit myself - I don’t mean UCMJ, I mean the local criminal code. So I don’t define ‘drinking after midnight’ as a ‘crime’. I see that as a ‘violation of Navy policy’. Yeah, yeah, try arguing that at mast but whatever.